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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Sep 30, 2008 12:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead - Donovan connection

The Grateful Dead would quote The Youngblood's song "Darkness Darkness" on occasion. Here is one noteworthy example during Not Fade Away and called "Darkness Jam" on the setlist. This jam is also a perfect example of what Rob just said about Garcia quoting his own material as well as that of others. In this passage Jerry quotes his own composition, (China Cat Sunflower),along with Donovan's There Is A Mountain and the Youngbloods Darkness Darkness all in the same passage! This is the omnipotent Grateful Dead at their best!

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-09-19.sbd.kaplan.5217.sbeok.shnf


There Is A Mountain

" Lock upon my garden gate,
a snail thats what it is.
Lock upon my garden gate, a snail thats what it is.
First there is a mountain then there is no mountain
Then there is

First there is a mountain then there is no mountain
Then there is.

The caterpillar sheds his skin to find the butterfly within.
Caterpillar sheds his skin to find a butterly within.

First there is a mountain then there is no mountain
Then there is.
First there is a mountain then there is no mountain.
Oh Juanita, oh Juanita, Oh Juanita
I call your name.

Oh the snow will be a blinding sight to see as it lies on yonder hillside
Lock upon my garden gates a snail thats what it is.
The lock upon my my garden gates a snail thats what it is
Caterpillar sheds his skin to find a butterfly within
Caterpillar sheds his skin to find a butterfly within
First there is a mountain then there is no mountain
Then there is
First there is a mountain then there is no mountain
Then there is"

Donovan Leitch

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Sep 30, 2008 7:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead - Donovan connection

Just BTW, I think this is the original source for the mountain, no mountain, mountain idea in Donovan's lyric:

'In the course of a lecture last winter on Zen Buddhism, Dr. Suzuki said: "Before studying Zen, men are men and mountains are mountains. While studying Zen things become confused: one doesn't know exactly what is what and which is which. After studying Zen, men are men and mountains are mountains." After the lecture the question was asked: "Dr. Suzuki, what is the difference between 'men are men and mountains are mountains' before studying Zen and 'men are men and mountains are mountains' after studying Zen? Suzuki answered: "Just the same, only somewhat as though you had your feet a little off the ground."'

The quote is from John Cage's Juilliard Lecture in 1952. I think Dr. Suzuki also included this idea in one of his widely-read books on Zen Buddhism, where Donovan or someone he was talking with could have come across it.

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Poster: observer53 Date: Aug 17, 2009 5:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead - Donovan connection

I have read the mountain, no mountain, mountain tale in Japanese and Korean Buddhism.

Also, I know it says "Oh Juanita/Wanita", in the song,
but the monks of the Pure Land school of Buddhism in Japan believe that if a person says the name of the Buddha, Amita (or Amitabha) even ONCE in a lifetime, they will be released from the cycle of life and death, and be reborn in the "Pure Land".

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 17, 2009 6:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Dead - Donovan connection

Amitabha tha blue bouddha of medecine saved my life once,a few years ago,he was the only who intervened in seconds knowing it had to be done urgent,and I'll never forget him for that, and I suppose He meant there were valid reasons to be on earth a while longer...